|  | Topic : Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob |  |
| | | Jasbel | | Set |  | | Reg. Date | : | 25/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 1 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 00:27 Post title : Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob | | | Greetings All
I Have been Thinking of upgrading from a Triumph Speedmaster to a ThunderBied Storm or even a Harley Fat Bob
both a very nice bikes but I seem to leaning towards the Thunderbird Storm, The Storm seems to be of a very good
Quality workmanship and the finish is Brillant, not to mention that they get up and boogie.
I have a number of friends who want to or have changed to the ThunderBird Storm with no regrets and really love it
more so over there harleys they used to own, some say they would not even think about going back to Harleys.
My concern is Both the Thunderbird Storm & Harley Fat Bob are expensive bikes for any of us here which brings to me my
next question. Do you think that the Triumph ThunderBird Storm will maintain there resale value like the Harley Fat Bobs Etc
I have no plans on selling the Storm in the near future if I purchase one, It's Just that bikes of that caliber costs us all
a lot of our hard earned money and want them to worth something years to come.
Cheers Darren
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| | | coneye | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 420 | | Location | : | adelaide, Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 01:10 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: Jasbel) | | | G day Darren , Well at this stage i would say if and thats a big IF , Harley and Triumph stay the same , sales ect ect , yep no doubt in my mind that the Harley wil be worth a bit more .
But how much more , there motorbikes mate, they start to lose value the day there registered , so on average in say ten yearse after purchase ,a Harley is worth more , you have to look at why , and the first thing you notice is how many LOW MILEAGE harleys there are , cos after , half the the harley riders have stopped hanging out in either the front bar , showing of the belt buckle or the coffeee shop , in there best new dirty clothes , practicing the sneer, well they don't ride a lot , so a low mileage well maintained motorbike with all the customary chrome bits that they have to have , will always be worth more than a bike thats got some serious miles .
So that leaves you in a quandry , do you buy a Harley that at this time WILL be worth more seconhand , provided you don't use it much , cos after all if you put high mileage on it , why buy yours when joe blo has one with very low mileage, or you do buy a T bird and put miles on it knowing at this stage there are virtually none on the seconhand market anyway .
Another thing to worry about with the Harley is simply Harley dealers themselves , they at this time seem to have lost some serious buisness , and are making up the short fall in revenue a couple of ways
1---- They are bringing in lots and i mean LOTS of cheaper seconhand Harleys from the states and selling them off has local , , so be very very careful and ask if you buy a seconhand harley if its a local or imported model . . and in doing so they are FLOODING there own market , which will mean a drop in Harley resale
2--- Harley have announce that ALL THERE AMERICAN DEALERS are now no longer allowwed to supply overseas customers with spares and accessories , So there will be NO more sending to the USA for reasonable priced parts , it pay up big at the Harley dealer .
So my advice is buy the BEST bike , ride the frigging thing , get your moneys worth and worrie about what its worth in ten years , in ten years ,
Or buy ANY of the 2 bikes , bring them home have a ride round the block and then store them for 30 years , and sell them at a profit , IN 30 YEARS WITH 500 klm on them
Cheers buddy , . I'm sure you will do whats best for you , but another thing to think about , when i had my Harley when i pull up anywhere it was just a Harley , now i ride triumphs when i pull up its like having a puppy or a smiling baby Everyone wants to know all about it even the Harley riders ,
PS ,, where in Aust are you . I'm sure you will do the right thing ,,, to suit you good luck
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| | | lwc1600 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 114 | | Location | : | Lakeland, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 01:28 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: Jasbel) | | | Read the latest write up in CRUISER magazine . It compares the Storm , FatBob and a Victory. Read this and your mind should be made up. The Storm as the article says embarasses the other two. 
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| | | CornerBanger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,113 | | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 01:56 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: lwc1600) | | | The Triumph wont hold the value the HD will. It is just the way it is. Now, the Fat Bob costs $1,000 more, add another $300 if you want color. In short, with the HD, you are paying more for less. Go ride them both and compare, I did and there is no comparison. IMHO I would not choose the much lesser bike because of resell value. To me riding motorcycles is about quality, value, and performance not about worrying how much money I might lose if I have to sell it.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 02:53 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: CornerBanger) | | |
CornerBanger wrote:
The Triumph wont hold the value the HD will. It is just the way it is. Now, the Fat Bob costs $1,000 more, add another $300 if you want color. In short, with the HD, you are paying more for less. Go ride them both and compare, I did and there is no comparison. IMHO I would not choose the much lesser bike because of resell value. To me riding motorcycles is about quality, value, and performance not about worrying how much money I might lose if I have to sell it. |
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Pretty much my feelings, too.
I'd add that the higher resale value of the HD vs. the Thunderbird only reflects what the market is willing to pay for a used HD and has nothing to do with actual quality: it's a strictly market-driven number.
| 2012 Storm (SOLD!)
Other Bikes:
2003 Suzuki DRZ400E (plated - my dual sport/mountain trail/camping bike)
Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | Linkdog | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 3,002 | | Location | : | Groveland, FL., United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 03:06 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | If you want something thats going to be worth something in ten years I'd suggest a 401k or if you want something thats worth somthing everyday T-Bird all the way.
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| | | molinoman | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 26/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 189 | | Location | : | Molino, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 04:04 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: CornerBanger) | | | I have a different take on the "resale" value of the Harley. First off you are "generally" paying a premium price for an ordinary air cooled engined bike with a Harley badge on it. Their strong points are great paint and chrome work, humongous amounts of aftermarket accessories (especially compared to the Thunderbird) and plenty of dealers...their bad points are usually underpowered compared to the size engine in the bike, run hot (even hotter if you stage it up for "more" power)...it's a Harley...so common and now the resale values are not as good as they used to be and you may or may not want to be a "pirate"...and are pretty much restriced to blue jeans and black t-shirts for your riding attire...real individualism there.
The "myth" of the higher resale value of any Harley usually starts off with forgetting that most (not all but definitely the majority) have a crap load of accessories on them at resale time. When you take the original price of the bike and the huge amount of money invested in those accessories...you are not actually buying a bike that is worth as much as when you bought it as a lot of the "sellers" of used Harleys (and their "buyers") would have you believe.
And last the Harley as well as the Triumph is a depreciating asset...never buy it as an "investment" buy it to ride and enjoy what most other people have no idea of what they are missing.
If it floats your boat...great...just don't try to pass off as fact that Harley's have "traditionally" a higher resale compared to other bikes. The owners of Harleys that are trying to sell their old bikes are betting on the saying being true...that is..." a fool and their money are soon parted".
If you want to buy a used Harley and think you are getting a great deal...then it is...to you....but it may not be to the rest of us.
Dennis
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58 dtg Home for good!
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Have finally ridden my 2010 Phantom Red Haze Thunderbird, picked it up in Feb 09, 2011, enjoyed the ride...now I am back in the sand box.
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| | | ray548 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/02/2010 | | Posts | : | 299 | | Location | : | sylmar, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 05:58 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: molinoman) | | | I've kept all my vehicles until they die, at least I get my monies worth. And I plan to do so with the the TB. It's paid for, so why worry about resale.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 07:05 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: Jasbel) | | | Hi Darren, not sure where in Aus you are mate, but here in SEQ we are about to get a huge new HD dealer moving into the southern suburb of Springwood. This bloke is apparently the biggest in Canada and is setting up in what used to be a large boat yard, so all I can see is that Harley resale prices will cop a hammering up here for a while as he is apparently bringing in large numbers(of s/h) from Canada and the US.
The Storm is selling well, whether it becomes a premium over the Tbird in years to come is anyone's guess, take the advice given here and ride both, then put your money down.(I'll bet it will be the Triumph )
Good Luck!!
PS, Just got back from a favourite run and my bird(Blue&White of course) and my mates Vmax got all the attention outside the cafes amongst all the brands that were lined up.
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| | | EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 21:07 Post title : Re: Resale Value- ThunderBird Storm or Harley Fat Bob (Re: Linkdog) | | | Linkdog wrote:
If you want something thats going to be worth something in ten years I'd suggest a 401k ... |
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