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| Thatch | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 13:21 Post title : Motul Synthetic Oil | | | As my other post mentioned I'm getting my bike worked on at the local Suzuki shop and they (obviously) don't carry the Triumph version of Castrol oil. What they do have is Motul. Anyone have any thoughts on using Motul? I have no experience with it. It is a semi synthetic oil but other than that and the fact that I recognize the name I know nothing about it.
Any thoughts about running Motul in your bird?
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| Birdy68 | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 13:28 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Thatch) | | |  If I'm not mistaken - that's the oil I have in mine since 11'000 km.
I have no problem with it - smells the same - looks the same - tastes the same, and even leaks the same!!!
Other than that I don't really have much to say that has weight to it! Sorry.
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| narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 13:33 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Thatch) | | | Thatch... you are definitely in the mood to start controversy today, huh? 
I've heard nothing but great things about Motul oil. My buddy Dave at 303Cycles sells it like hotcakes... the sportbike guys LOVE the stuff.
Of course, you're gonna hear lots of opinions about semi-synth vs. full synth. but really, if the oil is JASO-MA rated (or the equivalent) and is even close to Triumph's recommended viscosity, you'll be just fine. The school of thought I use is if you simply cut the manufacturer's change interval in half (I'm changing mine every 3000 miles), you can run just about any oil trouble-free... again, as long as it's JASO-MA rated.
Mmmmm, I wonder if they make a JASO-MA olive oil? 
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Other Bikes:
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Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| lioneloxford | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 231 | | Location | : | Oxfordshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 18:12 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Theres' nothing like the smell of Castol R in the morning.
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| Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 18:31 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Controversy? Me?
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| EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2011 - 19:07 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | narsisco_lopez wrote:
Thatch... you are definitely in the mood to start controversy today, huh?
I've heard nothing but great things about Motul oil. My buddy Dave at 303Cycles sells it like hotcakes... the sportbike guys LOVE the stuff.
Of course, you're gonna hear lots of opinions about semi-synth vs. full synth. but really, if the oil is JASO-MA rated (or the equivalent) and is even close to Triumph's recommended viscosity, you'll be just fine. The school of thought I use is if you simply cut the manufacturer's change interval in half (I'm changing mine every 3000 miles), you can run just about any oil trouble-free... again, as long as it's JASO-MA rated.
Mmmmm, I wonder if they make a JASO-MA olive oil? |
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I agree. AT 3,000 mile intervals I would not worry about a semi-synthetic. I'm not sure its worth worrying about at 6,000...
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| lwc1600 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 114 | | Location | : | Lakeland, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Apr 2011 - 02:23 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Thatch) | | | Damn good oil!!
The 7100 series is the fully synthetic oil.
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| feduke | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Apr 2011 - 12:12 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: lioneloxford) | | |
lioneloxford wrote:
Theres' nothing like the smell of Castol R in the morning.
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Like hell there isn't!
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| Buzzo | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 20/01/2010 | | Posts | : | 110 | | Location | : | Brisbane, Queensland, Australia |
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| | Posted : 30 Apr 2011 - 19:04 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: lwc1600) | | | lwc1600 wrote:
Damn good oil!!
The 7100 series is the fully synthetic oil. |
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I agree, the 7100 was the only oil my Triumph dealer would use when servicing the Rocket and I've been using the 5100 in my other bikes for years.
Good stuff.
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| Eight | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/04/2010 | | Posts | : | 205 | | Location | : | Leeds, Gods Country, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 03:57 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Buzzo) | | | Don't beleive the hype ! - all synthetic oils are made from Group 3 base oils, additives and in some cases for very high specs PAO's. Only a handful of companies actually make Group 3 oils - for instance Castrol and Motul don't. In essence, most are using the same base material to make the oils and there are only 4 major additive companies worldwide now, 3 of which are owned by oil companies.
It always amuses me when I see die hard loyalty to a particular oil because its much better than X or Y because it is quite likely to be made from exactly the same raw material and people get taken in by the marketing hype. Essentially, just make sure it meets the spec and you'll be fine
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| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 09:55 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Eight) | | | Nuff said. I like simple rules.
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| ray548 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/02/2010 | | Posts | : | 299 | | Location | : | sylmar, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 15:17 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: mat1600) | | | Nicely said, I think some of us take better care of ours bikes, than our own bodies. Personally I want to ride as long as possible.
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| Fordster | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 365 | | Location | : | Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 15:30 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: ray548) | | |
ray548 wrote:
Nicely said, I think some of us take better care of ours bikes, than our own bodies. Personally I want to ride as long as possible. |
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Ain't that the truth!
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| BigJack | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2009 | | Posts | : | 246 | | Location | : | Mishawaka, In., United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 15:42 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Fordster) | | | If oils are like rooffig tars they are made in 5,000 gallon churns the run through a canning line that puts a dozen different lables on the same product.You pay the price for the brand name not a better product.
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| Druid | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 17:28 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: BigJack) | | | Ok ok I give in . What spec? I dont have a clue what anyone is talking about but Im trying to learn. whats all the 10/50 number stuff . Is it viscocity or something . If so what does the bird use? Sorry for the ignorance but honest Im trying to learn here .
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| feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 17:59 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Druid) | | | Yes 20/50 is a viscosity number. Some oils, like this one are multi viscosity hence the 2 numbers. According to mostly temperature (I believe) the oil can go anywhere from 20 weight to 50 weight. The "Specs" are the double letters on the can and you should use what's recommended by Triumph in this case. They like synthetic and prefer Mobil One Racing 4T. I'm sure someone else here can get more technical if you want. I'm happy with that information personally since I don't plan on refining my own.
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| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 18:07 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: feduke) | | | Nope thats perfect thanks mate . Just need to see what im sposed to be buying.
Ok so I pump that into everyones friend and you can get Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40, 15W-50, 20W-50. Er ok which one lol.
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| feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 18:14 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Druid) | | | They only make one. You can't go wrong. The old KISS principle of engineering. Keep It Simple, Stupid
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| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 18:16 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: feduke) | | | lol fair enough
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| feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 18:17 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: feduke) | | | I'm sure some of the guys will come back with more specific information but this is like when my kids first asked about sex. After you get done explaining necrophelia and beastiality you don't want to go into the perverted stuff, like the missionary position.
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| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 18:22 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: feduke) | | | I look at your avatar mate and I wonder lol......
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| feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 03 May 2011 - 02:20 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: Druid) | | | She makes a lot of guys wonder.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 03 May 2011 - 03:10 Post title : Re: Motul Synthetic Oil (Re: feduke) | | | A multi viscosity oils' double numbers mean, when the oil is cold,the viscosity is at the lower number,hence when it's hot,the viscosity is at the upper number as Mike explained with his example of 20/50 weight oil.Dave!!!
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