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| Triple_D | | Set |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | Newcomerstown, oh, United States |
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| | Posted : 23 Apr 2011 - 22:06 Post title : Help Odometer switch | | | Switch has been working perfectly and now it doesnt work at all. I took the controls off the handlebars and sprayed it with electrical cleaner and nothing. Called the dealer and they act like Im crazy. They also said if the switch is bad it will take weeks to get in and all they have for a loaner right now is a rocket tourer and an america. I am hoping there might be a simple way to test before letting my bike set for weeks at the dealership waiting for a switch.
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2011 - 13:58 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Triple_D) | | | If you have a volt/ohm meter and you can see the contacts you can check for continuity when the switch is pressed. Or even one of those cheap little continuity checkers. if it IS making contact i would try disconnecting the battery for a few minutes then reconnect it and see if that does it. When you do that the bike resets the ECU and if there is a glitch that may clear it. It will also clear your fuel gauge so don't be shocked when you see it shows no fuel. That will come back tho maybe not correctly till you fill up again.
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| DizzE | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,141 | | Location | : | Sunnyvale, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2011 - 14:41 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: daz) | | | 
Yep, I think on this bike suspect the ECU over the various switch points. Micro switches these days are very reliable.
- So, before you go disabling safety items like side stand switches or even pulling switch covers, follow daz advice.
- It that doesn't work, all the bikes' systems report to the ECU on just 2 plugs on the left side. Wiggle and re-plug those.
- There is another main signal connection under the Speedo. Wiggle that and re-plug.
I built an IT career on doing those simple things first, before suspecting the mechanical devices. Cheap Trick...if
you do it yourself.
I went through months of training, back when, where the task was to come in and figure out what diabolical faults
were introduced by the instructors. Clear tape on certain pins or connector blade segments was a favored
curve ball. 
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2011 - 15:37 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: DizzE) | | | Good call on the connectors Dizze. The #1 issue with all electronics today by a long shot is flaky connections, be it a connector of any one of a trillion types, a solder joint or whatever. More trouble comes from bad connections then anything else. I still think this is more likely a ECU glitch tho, and i'd be inclined to try the battery disconnect first since it's quick and simple and very well may fix it.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| mad_angler1 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 511 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2011 - 22:50 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: daz) | | | it will more than likely be the button, triumph are having a number of problems with there switch gear on all models, if you dismantle it and clean the contacts it will work again, its water getting in from the button end. seen a number of these issues recently on sprint's.
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2011 - 23:30 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: mad_angler1) | | | If thats the case, it should be disassembled if necassary and possible and sprayed with contact cleaner and a little dialectric grease applied. That should keep it from happening again. I would also look at the switch and see if there are openings you can seal.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Apr 2011 - 01:49 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: daz) | | | After reading the above post about that switch,it reminded me of similar problems I've encountered,corrected,and prevented from reoccuring by periodically hitting each switch with alittle CRC Power lube,or equivilent, spraying it all around the outside edges of those switches and letting it sink in.And it worked.So!! Last night right after reading about it again,I marched my little ars right out to my shop and hit every switch on my Bird with the power lube.Thank you for refreshing my memory. Dave!!!
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| Triple_D | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | Newcomerstown, oh, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Apr 2011 - 09:11 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: davetac1) | | | Thank you all for your help. I will look into it over the weekend and hopefully get it going again.
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| Ted | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/06/2010 | | Posts | : | 551 | | Location | : | March, Cambs, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 27 Apr 2011 - 10:26 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Triple_D) | | | Just seen your post. My Tbird displayed LCD display unreliability, such as you describe, last March 2010. As it was intermittent I figured it was probably the switch. Then the only info I could get was the "miles to go" display, I sprayed the switch internals with some electrical contact jollop and, hey presto! It worked. This turned out to be a mere coincidence. The indicators then packed up and the horn/brake light fuse kept blowing. The Triumph shop diagnosed a faulty wiring harness and replaced it.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Apr 2011 - 00:45 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Ted) | | | Somethin else I fprgot to mention.All these little maintenace tips that have been mentioned here start "NOW" or THE DAY YA GET THE MACHINE.You won't believe just how far that drop of oil or lubricant will actually go.lol And it WILL pay you dividends over the life of your scooter.Dave!!!
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| Triple_D | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | Newcomerstown, oh, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2011 - 15:05 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: davetac1) | | | Well gentlemen went through the motions and came up with nothing. Called the dealership. 4 hours later we found out the ECU is not responding and wont communicate with the triumph database. Waiting to here from triumph now to see what needs to be done. Here is the part that flat out pisses me off. Got on my bike at closing time for the dealership and headed home which I mind you is 100 miles away and it is running like pure crap. Decel pop is crazy bad, Bike is studdering and has no power. Limped about 3 miles to a gas station and took off the side covers. What do I see. Power Commander is unhooked and wires laying everywhere. One cigarette and 10 minutes of cussin later had her back up and running. Now I am listening for trouble and to top it all off had a vaccum leak Under the tank that was making the bike pop and fart. What a glorious day I believe I did more work on the way home than the dealership did all day.  The worst part of it all was the Triumph tech I always work with was off that day so I had a tech who wasnt even affliated with triumph looking at my bike all day.
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| Birdy68 | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 03 May 2011 - 06:02 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Triple_D) | | | Triple_D wrote:
.... What do I see. Power Commander is unhooked and wires laying everywhere. One cigarette and 10 minutes of cussin later had her back up and running. Now I am listening for trouble and to top it all off had a vaccum leak Under the tank that was making the bike pop and fart. What a glorious day I believe I did more work on the way home than the dealership did all day... |
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| TBirdDaryl | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/06/2010 | | Posts | : | 15 | | Location | : | Crestview, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 11:35 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Triple_D) | | | I don't know if this applies to you or not, but I'll throw it out there for everyone. When washing your bike, make sure you cover the swith housing on the bars and the ignition. I use sandwich bags on the bar housings. I put the bag over them and use masking tape to hold them in place. I put a small piece of masking tape over the ignition switch too. It's not good to get these areas wet.
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| EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 12:19 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: TBirdDaryl) | | | TBirdDaryl wrote:
.... It's not good to get these areas wet. |
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What happens if one rides in the rain 
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| DizzE | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,141 | | Location | : | Sunnyvale, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 14:35 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Triple_D) | | |
Triple_D wrote:
Well gentlemen went through the motions and came up with nothing. Called the dealership. 4 hours later we found out the ECU is not responding and wont communicate with the triumph database. Waiting to here from triumph now to see what needs to be done. Here is the part that flat out pisses me off. Got on my bike at closing time for the dealership and headed home which I mind you is 100 miles away and it is running like pure crap. Decel pop is crazy bad, Bike is studdering and has no power. Limped about 3 miles to a gas station and took off the side covers. What do I see. Power Commander is unhooked and wires laying everywhere. One cigarette and 10 minutes of cussin later had her back up and running. Now I am listening for trouble and to top it all off had a vaccum leak Under the tank that was making the bike pop and fart. What a glorious day I believe I did more work on the way home than the dealership did all day. The worst part of it all was the Triumph tech I always work with was off that day so I had a tech who wasnt even affliated with triumph looking at my bike all day. |
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So, to be clear, the Morlocks at the dealer just un-hooked your PC and left it without a mention?
Eloi unite. Thow off this thraldom, this oppression, this tyranny. JSTDOIT yerself!
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| TBirdDaryl | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 20/06/2010 | | Posts | : | 15 | | Location | : | Crestview, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 19:32 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: EnGage) | | | Rain isn't likely coming down with the force that water comes out of a hose, or at the same volume. But, if I got caught in a down pour, you can bet I'd be getting the blower after my bike when I got home. Actually, I dry my bike if I get caught in the rain at all.
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| Steve | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 20:04 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: TBirdDaryl) | | | That's all very well in the "Sunshine State" but over here in the UK we'd spend more time cleaning than riding. It's always raining, though it's been good so far this year and the radio threatened a heatwave for a month this morning. That's probably equivalent to a month of warm days over there. 
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| EnGage | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 May 2011 - 22:30 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Steve) | | | I don't live in the UK, but for a variety of reasons, I have ridden through a lot of rain...
So far the Bird has not suffered due to it.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 06 May 2011 - 02:43 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: EnGage) | | | When you wash your Bird,OR ANY MOTORCYCLE for that matter,always,ALWAYS stay away from any switches,relays,of control modules with the hose.And as stated,the rain does not give ya the pressure that your average garden hose does.And while we're on this subject,never,never,NEVER use a pressure washer to clean a motorcycle.That high preesure will force water into places you didn't even know existed. Dave!!!
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| magpie | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,507 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 06 May 2011 - 07:14 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: Steve) | | |
Steve wrote:
That's all very well in the "Sunshine State" but over here in the UK we'd spend more time cleaning than riding. It's always raining, though it's been good so far this year and the radio threatened a heatwave for a month this morning. That's probably equivalent to a month of warm days over there. |
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Steve,
Ah .....what temperature will your "heatwave" get up to ?
Magpie
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| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 06 May 2011 - 11:29 Post title : Re: Help Odometer switch (Re: magpie) | | |
magpie wrote:
Steve wrote:
That's all very well in the "Sunshine State" but over here in the UK we'd spend more time cleaning than riding. It's always raining, though it's been good so far this year and the radio threatened a heatwave for a month this morning. That's probably equivalent to a month of warm days over there. |
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Steve,
Ah .....what temperature will your "heatwave" get up to ?
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Probs about 13c with the odd snow shower.
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