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| | | molinoman | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 26/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 189 | | Location | : | Molino, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Mar 2011 - 04:01 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: Theazrp) | | | I agree...they are out there somewhere...somebody find them fast.
Dennis
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| | | zolti | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 15 Mar 2011 - 19:50 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: feduke) | | |
feduke wrote:
Kando wrote:
we do not recommend mixing these tires as they have a very different compound. We currently do not have any tires that will work on your bike. These sizes are being looked at for your bike but nothing has been determined yet.
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I think you're talking to someone who is parroting the corporate legal department. Tire companies have to be scared to death of liability issues. The combination on my bike seems perfect to me. In 7,000 miles I have had no issues and only good results. Believe what you feel good with. I'm just telling you my experience which should be a bit more relevant than theory. |
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re kevin - playing it safe, i agree, has to. shame we cant get an off the record response.
just curious feduk, what pressures are you running
considering metz recommend 42 but triuph says run 38, how have you determined the pressure for avon?
did you take the top pressure at the given weight and deduct a percentage for any weight difference?
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Mar 2011 - 20:30 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | Well, I've laid off this thread for a bit, but see some of us are still at it.... and it seems to have broken down along "party lines".  Oh well, it's a fairly complicated issue, so I'm not surprised. There doesn't seem to be a definitive "right or wrong" here.
CASE ONE:
Almost ANY rubber will suffice on your 'sickle if you're willing to adjust your expectations accordingly. And, if you are a fairly-sedate rider who doesn't see a lot of mountain roads, changing elevations, and twisties; a harder, less purpose-designed tire will probably satisfy your needs... probably 99.99% of the time.
CASE TWO:
If you will be riding in constantly-changing weather conditions, banging through medium to high-elevation mountain passes and twisties in a "spirited" style (IE: CORNER-BANGING!), and doing long-distance, multiple day riding; then it just makes sense to err on the safe side and get the best tire for the job your pocket will tolerate. This really means a purposed-designed, matched set of tires, with a compound that's as sticky as possible for the road surfaces common to public roads and a tread pattern to sweep away rain while maintaining traction in aggressive cornering maneuvers.
Currently (and regardless of brand), the best HIGH-PERFORMANCE/TOURING TIRES utilize dual-compound technology to try to get BOTH the performance characteristics mentioned in CASE TWO above AND the best wear/tread life that's realistically-possible.
And currently... there simply isn't a HIGH-PERFORMANCE/TOURING TIRE designed to last longer than 10-12K miles. This isn't just my opinion, this is a technical-engineering fact of the motorcycle tire industry and any motorcycle tire expert will tell you the same: If you take a HIGH-PERFORMANCE/TOURING TIRE past its recommended mileage, you shouldn't expect it to perform as designed. Translation: it's your ass that's on the line if your riding style matching CASE TWO above.
I'm a CASE TWO rider, so I choose to run the best rubber I can reasonably-afford (damn, but I do love a good deal! ) I also like stacking the odds in my favor, so I choose to replace my tires well-before the manufacturer's recommendation. As an example, I'm leaving the first week of June for my big trip and I'll be throwing on new rubber a week or two before I leave... no matter HOW my current tires look and feel.
Personally... I just enjoy a good, spirited technical discussion (we're not really arguing are we?  ), am not selling tires, and don't have a stake in what my fellow riders choose to run on their bikes. 
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2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
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2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | feduke | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Mar 2011 - 21:14 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | Kevin Corbett
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just curious feduk, what pressures are you running
considering metz recommend 42 but triuph says run 38, how have you determined the pressure for avon?
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After speaking to several tire companies, and some of the local NASCAR people about their practices on their own cars and bikes, I deduct 10% from the maximum rated pressure as given on the tire. It has worked well for me for years now. I weigh in at close to 300 pounds, so you lightweight freaks might want to experiment with deducting a bit more than 10%
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Mar 2011 - 21:17 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: feduke) | | | I don't know what happened to that post but hopefully, here is what it said.
After speaking to several tire companies, and some of the local NASCAR people about their practices on their own cars and bikes, I deduct 10% from the maximum rated pressure as given on the tire. It has worked well for me for years now. I weigh in at close to 300 pounds, so you lightweight freaks might want to experiment with deducting a bit more than 10%
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| | | RoyH | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/01/2010 | | Posts | : | 37 | | Location | : | Littleton, Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 12:50 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | |
narsisco_lopez wrote:
Well, I've laid off this thread for a bit, but see some of us are still at it.... and it seems to have broken down along "party lines", oh well, it's a fairly complicated issue, so I'm not surprised. There doesn't seem to be a definitive "right or wrong" here.
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Narsisco,
I've stayed out of this thread, except for reading of course, until now because you have been making the exact same statements I would have been making. I agree with you completely as I am a case two rider also, guess great minds live in Colorado...
Take Care Everyone and ride safe! And for some of us that means we don't take chances with tires.
Roy
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 14:22 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: RoyH) | | | This has been a very interesting and informative thread with all kinds of different opinions,ideas, and many shared experiences,which I think we've all benefitted from.But let me say this and then I'll go back in my corner,put my dunce cap on,and shut my mouth.lol lol One thing that everyone,myself included,seems to over look when buying a motorcycle,a car,truck,boat,lawn mower,etc, is:What are you gonna use this machine,piece of equipment,etc.,for? And ya have to answer honestly.Well nine out of ten times,we don't ask ourselves that question or if we do,we don't answer it honestly,hence we get ourselves into trouble.From reading this thread as well as other threads on this and other sites,I believe we're doin the same thing with the T bird regarding tires and other upgrades in an attempt to improve overall performance of the bird.
Now bearing that in mind,and I said this before and I'm gonna say it AGAIN:The T Bird is NOT a CAFE'racer.It's a cruiser,a touring machine, if you will.But a lot of guys are using it,or tryin to use it, for something other than what it is intended to be used for.The guys on V Net do the same thing with their Ventures and a lot of em get into trouble by breaking things or going down on the machine which is most embarrassing,not to mention painfull.And if that hasn't happened to any of you guys yet,rest assured,at some point in time, it will. It's happened to me several times,but as I get older,I try to remember these things so I don't do it again.Supposedly,this comes with old age.Well I'm getin old,but sometimes I still don't always get it.lol Just remember,man creates his own problems. OK! Now I'll go back in my corner,shut my mouth, and play Mickey the Dunce. lol lol Carry on gentlemen.  Dave!!!
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 14:40 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: davetac1) | | | Well Dave, I for one, don't think you're a dunce (Besides, we share the same name, so how bad can YOU be! ) and you are as free as any of us other chuckleheads up in this forum to speak your mind.
You just have to be willing to dodge the virtual rocks that might be thrown in your direction when someone doesn't agree... and, with most of us, that could be 99.999999% of the time. 
Seriously, I get the point you are making with your last statement. I would just add that the Thunderbird isn't quite "your father's cruiser"... yes, it can definitely allow the rider to lay back, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery. BUT... it's also designed by those brilliant lads at Triumph give those willing to go for it one HELL of a spirited ride! Not to brag, but if you could have seen me taking it through the twisties on US 50 between Pagosa Springs and Canon City last Thursday, you most-definitely agree.
To strictly call this bike a "CRUISER" isn't being fair to the Thunderbird and those dedicated engineers that produced such a great, versatile riding machine.
So, once again... the question of what tire that's best for this bike doesn't have a simple, straightforward answer: it really DOES depend upon the type of riding you plan on doing on the 'Bird the majority of the time.
As Dave said: carry on, gentlemen!
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2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | Truss | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 146 | | Location | : | Canada |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 17:28 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | I had severe cupping on my stock front tire and I am one who regularly checks my tire pressures. In an effort to look for something else I researched the net and gathered as many reviews on each tire that might work. What I found out was that no matter which brand I checked out...... Metz, Bridgestone, dunlop, Avon etc. they all had mostly positive (and some very negative) reviews. Tough to get an accurate idea really.
I found a great deal on some Bridgestones and I'll report back regarding their wear throughout the season. I figure if they make formula one tires their motorcycle tires can't be all bad.
Has anyone else out there used the Bridgestones and if so, how are they working?
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| | | zolti | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 18:17 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: Truss) | | |
Truss wrote:
Has anyone else out there used the Bridgestones and if so, how are they working? |
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i usually ran tt100 (dunlop) on a speed twin i had and swore by them but a second hand t140 i bought had a bridgestone on the rear tt100 front, thought that was a tad wierd ( bit like a storm rear and a cobra front ) but being a student at the time decided to get the wear out of the tyre before relpacing it. thing was the bike handled VERY well, the tyre was excellent 1 or 2 up straight up or leant over.
so my impression of bridgestone is they can make a good tyre
not tried one on the tbird yet
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 18:55 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | I run Bridgestone Potenza Run-Flats on my 330xi and I think they're great tires, but the Bridgestone Battleax motorcycle tires I had on 2 different bikes (2007 Kawasaki ZX10R/2009 Triumph Sprint ST) performed like total crap. The thing is I didn't realize just HOW bad they were until I tried the Michelin Pilot Pure/Pilot Road 2 tires. I actually made a point of running the Sprint up a nearby canyon the morning before I swapped the Battleaxs for the PR2s, then rode up the same road after the change-out. Even being brand-new, there was such a noticeable difference in handling in corners that I swore I'd never spend a dime on Bridgestone motorcycle rubber.
But hey, I bet there are TONS of stories like Zolti's above! It just goes to show that in the case of rubber... YMMV - literally! 
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Other Bikes:
2003 Suzuki DRZ400E (plated - my dual sport/mountain trail/camping bike)
Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 16 Mar 2011 - 19:07 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Trouble is ,is that all our riding styles are not the same. Road surface, pillion, no pillion, straight US roads, crap UK roads,road chippings,speed , no speed. Its hard to come to a spot on verdict. I would like to try d/compound but will probs just stick to the Metz cos I am quite happy with them and know them on the bike. I could swap to another brand and could be 300 quid lighter and a set of crap tyres (tires).
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Mar 2011 - 00:44 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: mat1600) | | | Thank you.I think you just proved the point I was tryin to make in my above post.You must ask yourself just what you're gonna use your ride for? And ya gotta be honest with yourself.Dave!!
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Mar 2011 - 19:56 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: davetac1) | | | Guess what?? The temp climbed all the way up to 65* today with the sky nice and blue and the sun shinin.So I finally,FINALLY, got to take the bike out for a test ride on my new rear Avon Storm.The tire appears to handle and ride every bit as well as the Metz did.However,the thing I noticed right away was that the Avon was quieter than the Metz was.So we'll have to see how it works out as I pile the mileage on it.Hopefully,it will do better,mileage wise,then with the Metz did.We'll see!! Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 00:48 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
This has been a very interesting and informative thread with all kinds of different opinions,ideas, and many shared experiences,which I think we've all benefitted from.But let me say this and then I'll go back in my corner,put my dunce cap on,and shut my mouth.lol lol One thing that everyone,myself included,seems to over look when buying a motorcycle,a car,truck,boat,lawn mower,etc, is:What are you gonna use this machine,piece of equipment,etc.,for? And ya have to answer honestly.Well nine out of ten times,we don't ask ourselves that question or if we do,we don't answer it honestly,hence we get ourselves into trouble.From reading this thread as well as other threads on this and other sites,I believe we're doin the same thing with the T bird regarding tires and other upgrades in an attempt to improve overall performance of the bird.
Now bearing that in mind,and I said this before and I'm gonna say it AGAIN:The T Bird is NOT a CAFE'racer.It's a cruiser,a touring machine, if you will.But a lot of guys are using it,or tryin to use it, for something other than what it is intended to be used for.The guys on V Net do the same thing with their Ventures and a lot of em get into trouble by breaking things or going down on the machine which is most embarrassing,not to mention painfull.And if that hasn't happened to any of you guys yet,rest assured,at some point in time, it will. It's happened to me several times,but as I get older,I try to remember these things so I don't do it again.Supposedly,this comes with old age.Well I'm getin old,but sometimes I still don't always get it.lol Just remember,man creates his own problems. OK! Now I'll go back in my corner,shut my mouth, and play Mickey the Dunce. lol lol Carry on gentlemen. Dave!!! |
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Dave, while sitting quietly in your corner, I hope you can hear me add my agreement with you about knowing what you need and what you'll use it for. When I bought my last truck I did just that. Although I kinda wanted the Silverado crew cab 4X4 with every bell and whistle known to mankind, I asked myself those questions and then had to ask myself what the hell do you need all that for?, your're retired, the kids are long gone, you don't haul heavy stuff, why buy a $45-50K truck to occasionally haul a few 2X4s home from Home Depot,and I'm very happy with my smaller, lighter, less expensive, more fuel efficient truck......... (but the honesty part compels me to say I still kinda want that damn Silverado). As for the tires on this bike, I love the way it handles for ME with the stock tires so far and, IF I get the mileage I want, and IF I don't see something here to make me feel otherwise, I may just stick with them.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 03:06 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: Theazrp) | | | Yup! I bought three brand new pick ups over the last 38 years,all half ton,short bed models with the big motor,two wheel drive,four speed stump puller tranys,towin package,and locking differentials.No air,power windows,power door locks, power seats or fancy paint jobs.Regular AM/FM radio,period.Plain Jane.I needed it to haul boats and parts.The last new one,a 94 Dodge 1/2 ton,I bought in Sept of 93 and still have it today.In all three cases,I asked myself what I was gonna use em for and that's exactly what I bought em for.Some people called me cheap.I call me smart.lol And I've pretty much done that with most of the things I've bought thru out my life.The Dresser motorcycles I've owned,I bought for short money,only because it was late in the year and the dealers didn't want to carry em over the winter months.So they made me an offer I couldn't refuse.I may be DUMB POLOCK but I no STUPID POLOCK!! lol lol Dave!!!
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| | | molinoman | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 189 | | Location | : | Molino, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 03:09 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: Theazrp) | | | Why settle for a Silverado when you can have an F150 Lariat?...just kidding...in a way.
Dennis
103 dtg Dubai
104 dtg Home for good!
| Last bike owned:
2007 Triumph Rocket III (sold in April, 2010)
Have finally ridden my 2010 Phantom Red Haze Thunderbird, picked it up in Feb 09, 2011, enjoyed the ride...now I am back in the sand box.
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| | | FTL40 | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,122 | | Location | : | massachusetts, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 06:32 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: molinoman) | | | or an FX4 with luxuary package
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| | | zolti | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 22:31 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
Guess what?? The temp climbed all the way up to 65* today with the sky nice and blue and the sun shinin.So I finally,FINALLY, got to take the bike out for a test ride on my new rear Avon Storm.The tire appears to handle and ride every bit as well as the Metz did.However,the thing I noticed right away was that the Avon was quieter than the Metz was.So we'll have to see how it works out as I pile the mileage on it.Hopefully,it will do better,mileage wise,then with the Metz did.We'll see!! Dave!!! |
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HOW THE HECK DO YOU HEAR YOUR TIRES!!! 
please dont tell me you turn the engine off and free wheel down slopes to hear rubber on tarmac
well it got to 6* cent today and the sky was blue so i went for a blast ---- yehhaaa
man im sooooo jealous 65*f id be riding "naked"
good to hear there maybe a good metz alternative
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 22:39 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | That's it, I've had it with all you "Metzeler-Bashers".. I'm OUTTA HERE!!!!
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2003 Suzuki DRZ400E (plated - my dual sport/mountain trail/camping bike)
Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | zolti | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 18 Mar 2011 - 22:50 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | at least try them on a harley before you leave
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 07:50 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | 6500 miles and mine won't pass inspection...... Yeah they burn through pretty quickly
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 13:19 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | |
zolti wrote:
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Ohooo you guys are bad bad bad
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| | | EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 13:29 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | zolti wrote:
davetac1 wrote:
Guess what?? The temp climbed all the way up to 65* today with the sky nice and blue and the sun shinin.So I finally,FINALLY, got to take the bike out for a test ride on my new rear Avon Storm.The tire appears to handle and ride every bit as well as the Metz did.However,the thing I noticed right away was that the Avon was quieter than the Metz was.So we'll have to see how it works out as I pile the mileage on it.Hopefully,it will do better,mileage wise,then with the Metz did.We'll see!! Dave!!! |
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HOW THE HECK DO YOU HEAR YOUR TIRES!!!
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Mine "howl" so bad when I corner that I hear them over everything else
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| | | zolti | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 19:50 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: EnGage) | | |
EnGage wrote:
zolti wrote:
davetac1 wrote:
Guess what?? The temp climbed all the way up to 65* today with the sky nice and blue and the sun shinin.So I finally,FINALLY, got to take the bike out for a test ride on my new rear Avon Storm.The tire appears to handle and ride every bit as well as the Metz did.However,the thing I noticed right away was that the Avon was quieter than the Metz was.So we'll have to see how it works out as I pile the mileage on it.Hopefully,it will do better,mileage wise,then with the Metz did.We'll see!! Dave!!! |
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HOW THE HECK DO YOU HEAR YOUR TIRES!!!
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Mine "howl" so bad when I corner that I hear them over everything else |
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i hear wind and the howl of the engine, even tried to hear the tyres today just incase i was missing sommit lol
however - there is a stretch of road just north of stockton on the A19 where the surface is like concrete and in the car the tyre noise is much increased although i didnt notice it on the bike when i flew past last, maybe its the road surface where you are.. dunno
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| | | EnGage | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 21:44 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: zolti) | | | Forgot to mention that mine howl due to cupping. They start out fine, but after a while cup and get noisy
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| | | mat1600 | | Thunderbird | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 21:54 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: EnGage) | | |
EnGage wrote:
Forgot to mention that mine howl due to cupping. They start out fine, but after a while cup and get noisy |
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You need to cut a few more inches off those new pipes - that should get rid of the tyre noise.
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| | | EnGage | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Mar 2011 - 22:02 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: mat1600) | | | mat1600 wrote:
EnGage wrote:
Forgot to mention that mine howl due to cupping. They start out fine, but after a while cup and get noisy |
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You need to cut a few more inches off those new pipes - that should get rid of the tyre noise. |
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actually the new pipes do help that way...
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 21 Mar 2011 - 16:37 Post title : Re: Done with Metzeler (Re: EnGage) | | | Whenever you're looking to hear if ya have any strange noises comin from your vehicle,no matter what it is,take a ride along side of a stone wall or fence.If there's any noise there,you'll hear it.I've now been 200 miles on the Avon and so far,so good.Of course when the Metzslers were new,they too were quiet.But not for long.And if the tires are cupping,either ya don't have enough air in them, the rear suspension isn't stiff enough,or the tire isn't balanced right.Dave!!!
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