|
| Druid | | Jupiter |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 18:50 Post title : Wheels and the eternal problem .. | | | Ok right Ive decided. Ive found a place fairly local that will powder coat the wheels in that chrome finish. Ok Im sure it is not exactly like real chrome but then again the weather here in winter isnt exactly conducive to most metals .
The price is stupidly cheap as far as I am concerned at 55 quid a wheel . That includes sand blasting and treating and then powder coating. Thing is they need the wheels off the bike and stripped of all the bits and bobs like the bareings and the tires. Ok the tires arnt a problem as ill get the local tire place to get them off for me . My problem is getting the wheels off the bike itself. Ive ever done it . It cant be that hard surely? Get the bike off the ground a bit loosen axe bolt thing, pull it out . Push the wheel forward and bit slip the belt off and pull the wheel off? Do you need to unbolt the break calapper? Is it more than a novice can deal with?
I really need to get to know the bike and I want to do things myself and learn . Any advice . I am going to get a hydrolic lift with the wooden block idea I guess to raise the bike off the floor a bit , a torque wrench and a large sledge hammer hehehe. Am I mad ? Is it something I can do?
| Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery - W.Churchill
|
|
|
|
| CornerBanger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,113 | | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 18:55 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: Druid) | | | You can do it. take your time a read the instructions in the shop manual. The mufflers have to come off the header pipes to access the axle nut and axle.
| There are those who own and there are those who ride! 
2010 Thunderbird
2007 Kawi KX250F
2010 Kawi KX85 (My boy's ride)
|
|
|
|
| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 19:07 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: CornerBanger) | | | Got short tor's CB so I can access them without taking them off. I think.
| Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery - W.Churchill
|
|
|
|
| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 19:41 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: Druid) | | | I think the rear caliper is best removed for easy removal and replacement. Make sure when you pull the axle bolts that you catch the spacers etc and note which side they came off. I usuall get a small box and put one each side to chuck ya bits in. the caliper will come off easy. if its hard to put back on , just force the pads apart a bit (you wont need a lot unless you have pressed the rear brake . the brake discs will need removeing, just note which side they came off and put them back that side (front of course - only one on back) .As corner b said, use the manual. Not sure if the bearing are an interference fit (f tight) usually most come out fairly easy. If you have to bray them a bit you will need to replace them - probs best to replace if you have done some miles. Someone was saying about the cush drive and a lube to replace them with - it may get mentioned again. Just report back here if you have probs.
When you have finished you should be able to do a big bore job 
Good luck. 
If I have missed something someone will put us right.
| My first natural instinct is to breathe. My second is to evade tax's.
|
|
|
|
| zolti | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 20:19 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: mat1600) | | | its very "doable" just give yourself plemty of time, dont rush and a mate sometimes helps, if nothing else just to kep the bike stable, if you were local id have dropped by.
good luck
|
|
|
|
| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
|
| | Posted : 24 Jan 2011 - 20:31 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: Druid) | | | The hardest part is getting them back on, specifically the rear. It can be a bitch, but you'll get it. The other thing is when you take one off the bike tends to tip the opposite way due to the weight loss. It would be easiest doing one at a time, but if you take both off at the same time jut be sure to be careful about the weight distribution. It's not hard but it's a bit of a tedious PITA getting them back on but you may as well learn. loosen the pinch bolts and axls b4 you jack the bike up. Also removing one caliper on the front will allow you to get it out and back on much easier. in fact, if i recall I don't think you even can w/o doing that unless you jack it up awful high. One trick to getting them back on is to get them in place then let the bike down EXTREMELY SLOWLY till the axl holes line up with the wheel axl holes so you don't have to lift the tire while maneuvering the axl in. That can be tricky with a jack like mine which falls quickly when you turn the valve. You could end up with the bike on it's side. If you jack doesn't have a valve that allows it to drop slowly u can do what i do. I put a crescent wrench on the valve and brace my hand on the jack (important !!!!) then crack the valve open JUST BARELY till i see the jack lowering about a 1/4" a second or less. I watch the line up of the axl holes till it's just right, but be careful the wheel is situated right or was it comes down something could get crushed like if the disc isn't already in between the pads exactly. And i said "important" about bracing your hand because if you don't, then when you pull on the wrench it usually take a bit of power to get the valve to crack open, and if your hand isn't braced against something it will cause your hand to fly forward when it cracks open taking the valve too far open and the bike will just go down instantly, and i don't wanna think about that result ! Try practicing this with the bike on the stand a bit in the air with the wheels on and the kick stand down before you try it with wheels off and you will quickly get it and if you make a mistake in learning the bike will have the stand down already and all you'll have to do is have a hand on the bars to keep it going to the left side when it comes down. It's simp[le, but trying it safely first would be a good idea.
i don't want to scare you of from doing this, but if you aren't very mechanical it may not be a good idea. If you are to any reasonable degree then going slowly and using common sense should get you thru it. It would also be much easier to do one at a time. When you get one back then remove the other and take that one in. easier and safer that way.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
|
|
|
|
| fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 04:15 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: daz) | | | hey driud, i stayed away from the powder coating because in my experience,when tyres are replaced or you get stone chips
it will bleed or spiders web under the powder coat and that's final you cannot get that out.
that's why i went the ceramic coated.
If you do pull the wheels off you will also have to pull the cir clips,seals,spacers and bearings out or they will get fried when in the oven
or they will get grit in them from the sand blasting.
I replaced the bearings and seals with new ones from a bearing shop(alot cheaper than genuine ones)
which ever way you go they should look good
|
Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
ahh f**k im deep
|
|
|
|
| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 09:46 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: fab) | | | cheers guys for the advice . I have to say all sounds a bit daunting lol but what the hell you have to learn right?
Ceramic coating ill look into it cheers
| Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery - W.Churchill
| | Post edited by Druid on 25 Jan 2011 - 09:46 |
|
|
|
| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 09:50 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: Druid) | | | pm sent
| My first natural instinct is to breathe. My second is to evade tax's.
|
|
|
|
| Druid | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,359 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 12:30 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: mat1600) | | | Matt I owe you 5 pints
| Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery - W.Churchill
|
|
|
|
| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 12:32 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: Druid) | | | Don't pm them beers - I shall come and get 'um.
| My first natural instinct is to breathe. My second is to evade tax's.
|
|
|
|
| BigJack | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2009 | | Posts | : | 246 | | Location | : | Mishawaka, In., United States |
|
| | Posted : 25 Jan 2011 - 17:57 Post title : Re: Wheels and the eternal problem .. (Re: mat1600) | | | The rear caliper is not bolted on, the axel is what holds it in place.
| Big Jack, It's not what you ride,it's that you ride!!
| | Post edited by BigJack on 25 Jan 2011 - 17:58 |
|
|