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| | | Thatch | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 15:08 Post title : Peg Scraping | | | So I just read through a 4 page thread on another motorcycle board (no reason to mention which one) that was all about 'peg scraping' and what it OK to do or not. I was really surprised to see that the vast majority of posters held a point of view that fell somewhere between 'it is potentially dangerous, or a sign of impending danger' to 'you obviously don't know how to ride if you do it often and you will go down if you continue' These were 'cruiser riders' and many of them made statements such as 'I have never scrapped my pegs' or 'I've scrapped 2 or 3 times only'. This seemed rather odd to me.
Now I'm not suggesting that you need to be wringing it out every ride or if you don't scrape you're not a very good rider. Each person rides their own ride, and they should. I guess it was just the large numbers that seemed to hold to a very conservative riding style that surprised me. In the casual conversations we've had around here I've certainly seen different types but the feeling I've gleaned from the group is one of being much more comfortable in getting to the scrape. You may or may not go there often, you may not find it desirable but it happens, it's there and that's about that.
So, am I wrong? Are folks more critical of this and I didn't gather that? Or, are we a bit more sporting than others? (or possibly foolish). What's your take on scraping the pegs? ... oh and Corner, you're not allowed to answer this one.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 15:32 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | I don't see a problem with scraping the pegs as they are spring loaded. If I were to start scraping brackets etc then thats when I would expect to loose traction on the tyres. I tend to stick my heel down on a twisty so I can feel where the surface is. I also go steady around bends now as most of the time I have Mrs1600 on the back and probs worry too much about a spill , at least one of us has to get home to feed the kids. Each to their own riding style. But the handling of the bike does make me more of an aggressive rider than previous bikes.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 15:45 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: mat1600) | | | One could possibly catch the nut on something and go down, an extreme thing to happen. I tend to ride conservative and was always scrapping on one curve near work. I put the Kuryakyn swing pegs on the front and rear, I have scrapped them. There is no nut on the bottom, so nothing to catch. They are comfortable for both me and the wife likes them better than that small peg.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 16:40 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | |
Thatch wrote:
... oh and Corner, you're not allowed to answer this one. |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 16:48 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | I did scrape my pegs few times last summer and almost immediatelly started to lean over to inner curve, even though it might look ridicilous with cruiser, it gives so much more room to make it thru corners faster without sparks. Lot of those pics, where people are scraping pegs with cruisers, show their attend to move torso to outer curve and scrape like hell?!? Seems that any one of them never rode a sports bike.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 16:56 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: CornerBanger) | | | Oooh Thatch, now you've done it! Let's hope this thread doesn't devolve into a HD/Cruiser rider slam-fest
But...
From my limited time on my 'Bird (rolled it off the dealer's lot on August 31st of this year), I find that on some of my regular routes there are certain corners I always scrape the feelers and others I never touch, no matter how I come into them. I'm very comfortable and relaxed on my new Thunderbird and, as I get used to her, feel the Triumph "sportiness" ooze out in the twisties, but I'm determined to ride "The Pace" when I go up into the mountains. I think my riding has actually improved since switching from my ZX10R to the 'Bird... much more smooth and controlled. I can't speak to other cruisers, since I don't have saddle time on them, but I feel that the Thunderbird has a great mix of sport bike handling and performance with the built-in comfort and stability of a cruiser. While it seems pretty easy to get "spirited", it's also equally easy to lay back and enjoy the scenery.
With that said, my opinion is (and... IT'S JUST MY OPINION, GUYS )... if you feel like you just HAVE to get those feelers down on every single corner you come across while on the 'Bird (or any other cruiser, for that matter), you MAY be on the wrong bike
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:03 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | |
Thatch wrote:
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Hmmmmm... I'm betting, as a whole, Triumph riders might be a bit more sporting that other cruiser riders in general
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| | | CornerBanger | | Jupiter |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,113 | | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:25 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | I think you are right because most places I ride have cruiser riders poking. I have had many cruiser riders, hell i will come out and say it because I know Thatch threw the bait for someone has to bite, HD riders tell me I ride too fast and aggressively. I have even had a few tell me I have something to prove or else I would not ride the Bird like I stole it. I tell them I ride it like this because I can and you are jealous because your bike wont accommodate your inner desire to be a cornerbanger...
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| | | daz | | Zeus |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:35 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping | | | I think it depends on the bike. The Tbird scrapes so easily you almost have to. Either that or ride the tight stuff at 5 MPH. A lot of harelys even lean a lot more than ours b4 they scrape.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:42 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | I have owned only 2 cruisers so far and maybe I am doing this wrong, but I tend to ride them like I do any other bike. I have mostly had sport bikes and cafes. I tend to ride hard and push the bike because I think it is fun. I have scraped the pegs on the bird plenty, I try not to stick them too hard but it happens. I would not normally alter my riding because of the wife being on pillion (until she starts hitting me in the back, so I am forced to remember that I have a passenger).
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:43 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: daz) | | |
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| | | ataDude | | Chaac |  | | Reg. Date | : | 19/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 527 | | Location | : | Texas, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 17:53 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | I consider peg dragging as a warning.
I've had to change my riding style as the peg scraping is almost immediately followed by hard parts dragging.
While aggressively riding, I tend to shift my butt a bit to the inside... that significantly changes the center of gravity and delays the dragging quite a bit.
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| | | daz | | Zeus |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 18:15 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Like i said, a "lot" of harleys, I certainly didn't say all all, especially big bagger types. On the other hand the HD in the video may have leaned very hard so even if they did have better clearance than a bird he scraped, who knows. Can't tell 4 sure from the pic. But trust me, a lot of them don't. I was just in back of one up a twistie last weekend and i was watching his pegs and they were no where near dragging while mine were, and we were same speed, same angle. Not like he was butt hanging or any of that. the bird's pegs really do scrape sooner than probably the majority of cruisers. probably because they aren't as forward as other foot forward cruisers which tend to go up as the go forward.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 18:23 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: daz) | | |
daz wrote:
Like i said, a "lot" of harleys, I certainly didn't say all all, especially big bagger types. On the other hand the HD in the video may have leaned very hard so even if they did have better clearance than a bird he scraped, who knows. Can't tell 4 sure from the pic. |
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Daz, I was only having a bit of fun by posting that video (I edited that together a couple of months ago from photos posted on another thread here). Wasn't trying to refute/dispute... just goofing around
But, to address what you say, wouldn't peg/feeler scrape be a factor of mounting position? I mean, if a bike has forward controls, etc?
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 18:50 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | I ride quite conservativly tbh. Its important to know where the bike's touch down points are and how far it will go if you in trouble. So yeah I scrape a bit but nothing too mad. Some days I activly go out of my way to make some sparks for the fun of it . Other days Im not bothered. It certainly dosnt bother me but I do think the Bird scrapes too early if Im honest. I stick to my priciples slow in , fast out.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 18:51 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | Gosh Thatch - another deep, posing question... I had not really thought about it until now. Scraping pegs could be seen as a warning that we are at either:
(i) the machine limit - in which case some of us may decide to test the 'conservativeness' of that limit, or
(ii) a personal limit - where it gets complicated & can depend on many factors...family takes priority over
testing our mettle on a surface which is too variable to predict.
I am reasonably experienced on bikes, riding many bikes over the last 36 years, including racing Strokers(my
god....what happened to them!?), so I have had my large share of peg scraping on lousy handling bikes!
But If I am to look at bikes I have ridden in the last 5yrs (ie 'modern' machines)
When I had a Fatboy, I scraped the boards ALL the time, so I raised the boards - still scraped, but bike a bit
twisty, so had to stiffen swing arm..still scraped....even on roundabouts - toured 2000 miles around SW England
with Mrs on back & had enough. [MACHINE LIMIT]. Moved to 103 SE Ultra, better ground clearance, 'touched' boards all the time once I had sorted out handling
vagaries - but that touch REALLY WAS a warning; I had to go deeper once & was nearly off with a tank-slapper
[MACHINE LIMIT with no room for error] - mind you, many Ultra riders said that the bike was too heavy to ground the
boards..(?? phttt ??)
Moved to T-16. I walked away from the test ride last May with a big smile on my face and scrapes on the pegs. I had
gone around the same bends/roundabouts faster than ever, no sign of a twitch - no intention to scrape...just
happened. Personally, I took it as a warning of my own limit (first time on the bike!)
Since then, yes, I still scrape the pegs, but not intentionally....it just happens! The T-16 goes like its on
rails, imperfections on the road cause little disturbance on touch-down. Just like Matt1600, from experience, I
still dip my heel down in bends before peg hits - great indicator, but expensive in heels...sounds like my wife!
On reflection, the Thunderbird has got to be THE most forgiving, sweetest handling, comfortable bike I have ever
ridden. Scrape away folks!!!
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 19:28 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Druid) | | | I echo some sentiments. I lower my heels and drag them as an early warning too so I know when I am going to be close because it startles me when I feel it and I don't like being startled when I am concentrating on driving fast in the turns. I scrape fairly frequently, but try not to because it means something is being worn off... but I have never felt the rear tire yield or come close to yielding and that usually proceeds trouble.
When I got my America, I used to read about guys dragging and thought no way, I lowered my bike over by hand until the pegs touched and that is what is scary, seeing how far down you really get because it does not feel that low when your riding!
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 20:23 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: fasteddy) | | | I come from a sports bike background and had to re train my self on how to ride this bike. I don't scrap all the time but i do it regularly when i want to push it through the twisties I have gone through 3 sets of crank angle bank sensors(this is what triumph calls them,bolts under the pegs) and 2 pairs of boots The only time i have felt uncomfortable dragging the pegs was when i went around a corner and clipped a cats eye with the foot peg,it ripped the cats eye of the ground and kicked the peg up,scared the shit out of me when i got off the bike at the next stop it had torn the crank angle bank sensor out of the foot peg. besides this encounter i think it is safe to scrape the pegs as long as you don't go any further.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 20:46 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | In the mountains of Southern California it's real easy to scrape your pegs/running boards on the twisties. I've scraped my boards quite a few times, especially on the hairpins. Not once have I felt unsafe while doing it.
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 21:01 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: MickeyBoy) | | |
MickeyBoy wrote:
In the mountains of Southern California it's real easy to scrape your pegs/running boards on the twisties. I've scraped my boards quite a few times, especially on the hairpins. Not once have I felt unsafe while doing it. |
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I do. Not because the bike can't easily handle the angles at that point, that doesn't bother me in and of itself. But because not much more and you begin scraping the hard bits. And that scares the hell outa me because unlike the spring loaded pegs, the hard bits can and sometimes will lift a wheel off the ground and then thats all she wrote. I prefer more sweeping turns at high speeds for my thrills. I take the tight stuff slow. I rarely scrape in sweepers, and when i do i DO consider that a warning because it takes some pretty foolish riding to do that. And i can be as foolish as anyone at times
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 21:54 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: daz) | | | There,s a run i do every sunday morning , its a 50 mile jaunt through hills sweepers and lots of sharp bends and hilly u turns , a riders dream , Its a ride which when i'm in the mood its easy to scrape on every bend , But i think you have to consider it a WARNING . especially on the T bird , i can do the same journey on my big heavy tourer and shave minuites of the journey simply because it don't scrape on the same roads.
The T bird is a easy bike to ride but i find its easier to find its limits than other bikes i've owned. But my feelings are once you find them limits , pull back , slow down your no good to your familly when you have slid under that on coming car.
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| | | Thatch | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Dec 2010 - 23:01 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: fab) | | | fab wrote:
I have gone through 3 sets of crank angle bank sensors(this is what triumph calls them,bolts under the pegs) and 2 pairs of boots |
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Sound a bit like me on that one Fab. I've gone through 2 sets of hero pegs (what I call them), I quit replacing them after the second set and now the threaded hole is ground half away, but only one pair of boots. However, you should see those boots. I knew the move was coming so I didn't replace them. Maybe I'll grab a photo of them soon before I toss them out.
Personally I didn't give the scraping much mind at all. I knew that there was plenty of hero peg to wear through and the pegs were hinged. There is a significant amount of distance left after scraping a stock peg and scraping hard bits. Now that I've let the pegs wear down and I no longer replace the hero pegs I pay a bit more attention to scraping. My clearance has increased a lot from the wear but my warning time is greatly reduced as well. I don't think I would of liked starting out with such little warning, but now that I now the bikes limits I'm much happier with the greater clearance.
As for what corners it happens on, the ones I have confidence on. That's why with many folks it happens at slower speeds. However my morning commute became very familiar to me and there were several corners on that trip that would get a peg planted around a corner. One onramp in particular was a favorite. The road dropped down into a tight inside curve back onto the highway below and if you found your lane just right you could lay it over on the outside peg, roll your right wrist and just ride that peg all the way around. I did love that curve. 80 mpg with a peg pinned to the ground is just a fun thing for me. But we all get our little joys various places.
Really I asked the question simply because I didn't get what I was hearing at the other forum. For the most part the responses have validated what I thought. Each has their own thoughts on the matter but I don't hear any 'wrecks are imminent' sort of responses. Much more of the 'it's a necessary evil', 'it happens' or 'what else are pegs for' sort of responses. Maybe it is the Triumph owner sort of mentality. Maybe it's the price of the bike increases the chance of a more experienced rider (though I know there are some new and new again riders here) I don't know. I do know I understand the answers here a hell of a lot more than I understood the answers over there.
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| | Posted : 18 Dec 2010 - 04:49 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | All things being equal, I was telling a buddy of mine from New Mexico who was a former factory Super Bike racer for Suzuki in Japan in the 70's. I was telling him about my enjoyment of pushing the bike from time to time and he said, "Be careful Eddy" I replied, I am careful and I'm a decent rider.. He responded, "That may be well and true my friend, but I have known guys that are the best in the world and they still died...be careful."
Point was taken.
I the end we need to respect these things we love. I used to tell my boys when they were competing at the national level in Observed Trials, don't fear them, but respect them because they can kill you.
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| | Posted : 18 Dec 2010 - 10:33 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: fasteddy) | | | Yep..+1 to Fab and Thatch.
I've worn my hero's down to where I can't remove them anymore. Was too lazy to replace them when there was still something to hold onto.
I've gotten used to the scrape over time. like Fab my last bikes many moons ago ( Tbird is my first bike back after 15yr lay off ) were sporties, so I could never scrape them, unless I was sliding down the road (yep happened once) .
So when I first got the bird it was a bit disconcerting until I got used to it. However, since i installed some new fork valves and stiffer fork springs she scrapes a lot less now. I've even managed to scrape the brake lever unit on mine. It'll happen on a long sweeper and you're already leaned over on the pegs (I then usually lift that foot of the peg so she lifts up) and then crank over more when you have to carve that tighter radius and then the brake lever fulcrum scrapes....I back off then.
They're expensive to replace, and they rust cause it's not alloy !!
With you on that one FastEddy. Always ride within your ability and comfort zone. As Eric Cartman always says (my Bird's new apt name by the way...long story) ..."Respect my Authority !"
........or another of my favourites..." Stan...don't you know the first law of physics ?...anything thats fun costs at least eight dollars."....or...yeah I'm started now...."It's a man's obligation to stick his boneration in a women's separation; this sort of penetration will increase the population of the younger generation.".......and last but not least ...."You seem a little irritable, Kyle. You got some sand in your vagina? Kyle: There's no sand in my vagina ! "
Sorry to veer onto that tangent, but I love Cartman...especially cause my wife hates Southpark.....hence the new name of my bird !
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| | Posted : 18 Dec 2010 - 16:34 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: Thatch) | | | I have no opinion of the topic. I started riding late in life (50) so I'm all about not taking chances. I've hit the pegs a couple of times, but that's about it. Given that, I just don't ponder this topic.
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| | Posted : 18 Dec 2010 - 17:39 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
MickeyBoy wrote:
In the mountains of Southern California it's real easy to scrape your pegs/running boards on the twisties. I've scraped my boards quite a few times, especially on the hairpins. Not once have I felt unsafe while doing it. |
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I do. Not because the bike can't easily handle the angles at that point, that doesn't bother me in and of itself. But because not much more and you begin scraping the hard bits. And that scares the hell outa me because unlike the spring loaded pegs, the hard bits can and sometimes will lift a wheel off the ground and then thats all she wrote. I prefer more sweeping turns at high speeds for my thrills. I take the tight stuff slow. I rarely scrape in sweepers, and when i do i DO consider that a warning because it takes some pretty foolish riding to do that. And i can be as foolish as anyone at times
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Coming down from Big Bear it's almost impossible not to scrape.
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| | Posted : 18 Dec 2010 - 20:20 Post title : Re: Peg Scraping (Re: ataDude) | | |
ataDude wrote:
I consider peg dragging as a warning.
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scrape if req. best to enjoy and ride as you feel comfortable
this old girl doesnt lean too far before your heel warns anyway. seems one solution is to "progress" the suspension
my 79 meriden twin almost lies down on corners before she scrapes. a lad i riden with for years with will always pull away on the very tight twisties ( only the tight twisties though ) when he rides his 78 and im on the bird and up here we have hundreds of such bends
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