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| | | feduke | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 11:54 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: davetac1) | | |
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But like I said,this is just theory,and until I actually put it on the machine and run it,I won't know for sure just how good or bad it will handle.But I do know this.The Thunderbird is NOT a cafe racer or a sport bike,it's a Cruiser and not meant to take on every rice rocket that comes down the road or take corners at Warp Factor III.lol Plus,at my age,I don't driive my scooters hard anymore,especially my new T Bird.Infact,one might say that I drive like an old lady, lol,which is why Im not overly happy with the rear tire wearing out as fast as it does .lol My years on two wheels have given me a lot of experience,not to mention the guys I've seen splattered all over the road from the lack of experience and or just plain stupidity. Dave!!! |
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Up until this post the best thing I've seen come out of Massachusetts is either Interstate 95 or 90. Well said Dave. And I was thinking of putting rearsets on the Bird and heading for the track.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 14:33 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: feduke) | | |
feduke wrote:
davetac1 wrote:
But like I said,this is just theory,and until I actually put it on the machine and run it,I won't know for sure just how good or bad it will handle.But I do know this.The Thunderbird is NOT a cafe racer or a sport bike,it's a Cruiser and not meant to take on every rice rocket that comes down the road or take corners at Warp Factor III.lol Plus,at my age,I don't driive my scooters hard anymore,especially my new T Bird.Infact,one might say that I drive like an old lady, lol,which is why Im not overly happy with the rear tire wearing out as fast as it does .lol My years on two wheels have given me a lot of experience,not to mention the guys I've seen splattered all over the road from the lack of experience and or just plain stupidity. Dave!!! |
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Up until this post the best thing I've seen come out of Massachusetts is either Interstate 95 or 90. Well said Dave. And I was thinking of putting rearsets on the Bird and heading for the track. |
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Well, you're all entitled to your opinion, but what does the fact that the Tbird is a cruiser have to do with whether or not you should take advantage of it's handling if you so desire? Would you also cite a certain sportbike that is not as good a handler as another and say you shouldn't ride it hard because it's not the best when it comes to handling? Makes no sense to me. I mean, where do you draw the tline? I'll tell you where....at the point the bike is no longer capable. Lets say on a scale of 1-10 a average sportie handles at 9. Lets say the bird handles at 7. Because the sportie handles better by 2 points, does that mean you shouldn't ride the Tbird up to 7? If i can push it to a 7 and enjoy that, why should i not be so inclined any less than a sportie rider taking his to 9? If it's stays safe to 7 and i enjoy the ride like that, theres zero reason to say that you shouldn't ride it like that any more than a sportie riding at 9. If your point is don't ride hard in the twisties period, i will agree that you have a good sane argument. But thats has nothing to do with what the Tbird is capable of or not when it comes to handling.
Point is this....every bike is capable of handling to a given degree of safety up to a point. Whether that *point* is a 2 or a 10, if you ride to that point you are as safe as any other bike. It does NOT matter what moniker the manufacturer gives a bike....cruiser, sportie, whatever. ALL that matters is how far the bike is capable of being taken and whether you keep it under that point or risk passing it. Sportie or cruiser, doesn't matter. Either is equally safe to a point. The Tbird's point is just lower. Assuming I and others who push it are staying under that point, i don't see your argument. It makes no sense to be blunt. Unless you cite certain parameters such as suggesting it is unsafe to ride a Tbird as quickly as a sportie. Then YES, i agree. I will however say i think they are much closer than you guys make it sound. My experience with it aside, it's been said numerous times in reviews by both users and magazines how it handles unlike any cruiser. I have read guys who have bonnies and a Tbird say it handles BETTER than the bonnie ! On the NTBF forum i saw a guy say his bird handles BETTER than his thruxton ! I have heard 2 guys who have sporties say that aside from the pegs scraping it's close !
So unless you are saying don't push it as hard as a sporties which i would agree with, then your point makes little sense to me. Like i said, every bike has it's limit and you simply try and stay within that. ther Tbirds limit just happens to be much further up the scale than any other cruiser and actually handles more like a really good standard at least, a pint not made just by me but by a ton of people including bike mag editors, wo i think might know a thing or 2.
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 15:37 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | | What Dave said.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 15:46 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | | Dave, I've heard you say repeatedly that the Thunderbird is not a sport bike or cafe racer. This is most-definitely the fact. But, as Daz said above, it's also not like most cruisers in its class... Triumph went WAY out of its way to make sure it built a bike worthy of Triumph's reputation for great-handling, great-performing bikes. Which is why, as Daz also said further up this thread, they sourced out a tire to match the performance characteristics of the machine.
I definitely see the point you're making: if you don't push your 'Bird to its natural performance capabilities, you don't feel you need the performance capabilities (and thus accompanying low-mileage trade-off) of the Metzeler. Fair enough.
But, and I mean this with absolutely NO disrespect... you may have to face the fact that the Thunderbird is NOT your father's cruiser... it's a pretty-heavy high-performance machine and (I believe time will bear this out) is gonna chew up ANY tire at a rate way faster than conventional cruisers.
Ok, the following analogy is a BIT EXAGGERATED, but...
Imagine you buy a Formula One car, but only intend on using it to cruise around town on a Friday night. You can't then complain about the cost of Formula One car tires and how short their usable life is.
Again... that's just a highly-exaggerated example.
Those of you who just can't stand the thought of shelling out for tires every 6K-10K miles may have to face the fact that it simply goes with the territory of owning a Thunderbird.
As I've repeatedly said, I'm a life-long sportbike "Hooligan" who's just recently come into this kind of bike geometry and was lucky enough to have the good sense to recognize the excellent characteristics of the Thunderbird. Any sportbike guy will tell you the same... we consider ourselves VERY LUCKY to squeeze out 12K from a performance tire.
That's not to say there isn't some sort of solution...
1. If someone was so inclined, I'm sure a custom-fit rim for the rear could be found/modded to reduce the rear tire to a 180-190... then you could fit a high-mileage touring tire like the Michelin Pilot Road 2 or 3.
2. Something similar could be done to the front to reduce the rim size to 18"... which would give more tire options.
3. One of the front brake calipers could be removed, reducing its stopping power.. over time, the rider would get used to the extra time it took to bring the 730+lbs to a stop and, thus, reduce the braking load on the tires.
I'm sorry guys, but a 25K mile tire for the Triumph Thunderbird, at this point in time, is Science Fiction.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 16:39 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: feduke) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
Up until this post the best thing I've seen come out of Massachusetts is either Interstate 95 or 90. Well said Dave. And I was thinking of putting rearsets on the Bird and heading for the track. |
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Now don't you be pickin on my unfair State of Taxachusetts where all the CROOKED politicians have their hands out looking for anything and everything that they can screw ya out of and then give it to the illegals or welfare recipients that never worked a day in their lives.lol lol That is,after they take their unfair shares first.lol
As for the Tbird not being a cafe racer or a rice rocket,I did NOT say not to push it, or it couldn't keep up with or handle any worse or better than the next machine, or don't drive it hard,I said that it's not really built for that.However,if one wants to push it to the limit and then some,then by all means,go for it.That's your perogative.lol And I meant no disrespect to either the machine or the rider.Far be it for me to tell anyone how to drive,or what to do with, their machine.lol Afterall,you're the guy that paid for it.Not me.lol
If ya wanna see guys pushing their machines to the limit and then some,watch or follow the guys with the 1800 Gold Wings.Man,do they take em to the limit.lol And the Wing is not exactly a light weight machine.lol I've also sene some of them splattered all over the highways.and it's not a prettty site. Dave!!!
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 17:21 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
If ya wanna see guys pushing their machines to the limit and then some,watch or follow the guys with the 1800 Gold Wings.Man,do they take em to the limit.lol And the Wing is not exactly a light weight machine.lol I've also sene some of them splattered all over the highways.and it's not a prettty site. Dave!!! |
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Guess what holds the record on the Tail of the Dragon? You guessed it, a Gold Wing.
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 17:27 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | |
narsisco_lopez wrote:
Those of you who just can't stand the thought of shelling out for tires every 6K-10K miles may have to face the fact that it simply goes with the territory of owning a Thunderbird.
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I've bitten my tongue until now. The above quote is unmitigated BS! You have absolutely no experience with anything but your beloved Metzlers, but know they are the only tire that works. As often said, ignorance is bliss. Good bye and good riddance to this thread. My inferior intelligence and experience bows to your well researched opinion.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 17:28 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: davetac1) | | |
I've also sene some of them splattered all over the highways.and it's not a prettty site. Dave!!! |
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$50 bucks says i've seen 100 sporties splattered for every wing. Wait, cross that....i haven't seen a wing splattered. But see, you can't just twist something to make a point. Sure there are wings that ride nuts and crash. there are also sporties that do and thats probably equally as prevalent. In numbers FAR more, but percentage wise, those who ride a sportie *to it's limit* will crash the exact same amount as wing riders who do.
lets me re-phrase your argument how i think you meant it, or at least IMO should have meant it...."The Tbird doesn't handle as well as a sportbike so you shouldn't ride it to the same limits".
That said, i ride pretty hard fairly often. Most harley guys might call me insane. Most sportie guys will think i'm riding briskly at best. It's a cruiser, but that name means zero as handling goes. If bad handling the defination of a cruiser then the Tbird isn't one. It outhandles my former meridan bonnie to a degree thats almost comical. The bonnie isn't a cruiser.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 17:53 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: feduke) | | | feduke wrote:
narsisco_lopez wrote:
Those of you who just can't stand the thought of shelling out for tires every 6K-10K miles may have to face the fact that it simply goes with the territory of owning a Thunderbird.
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I've bitten my tongue until now. The above quote is unmitigated BS! You have absolutely no experience with anything but your beloved Metzlers, but know they are the only tire that works. As often said, ignorance is bliss. Good bye and good riddance to this thread. My inferior intelligence and experience bows to your well researched opinion.
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Sorry to ruffle feathers... I realize that it's pretty easy to do in a forum where we only have the written word to convey our thoughts and can't use tone of voice or body language to express ourselves.
I guess I should have typed, "may have to", or "might have to" or something else to express what I meant. But what I meant was as the facts we have about the bike's handling/performance/geometry and what we have currently for tire selection, we just might have to limit our expectations as far as wear goes. Obviously, the jury is still out, but I was just making the point that accepting the poor mileage MIGHT be one of the long-term downsides of owning this bike. Again... I apologize if I wasn't clear about what I was thinking as I was writing.
Yes... I ONLY have experience with the Metz on the 'Bird, but I DO have LOTS of experience with many motorcycles and many different tires. I can also read the technical papers, listen to what the pros have to say, read consumer reviews of other tires and bikes, and make a pretty educated guess as to what might be in the cards as far as wear expectations for this bike.
Again... we're limited to written words on a computer screen in this forum. That can make it rough to have an intellectual, theoretical discussion. Someone is always gonna disagree with someone else's ideas or theories. That doesn't mean we should stand back from our ideas and give up trying to discuss the issue in a civil manner. I don't think there was anything I wrote that was disrespectful of or insulting to ANYONE, but I'm truly sorry if it came out that way.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 18:05 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | I'll further mention that this is and has till now been a debate. Not being able to convince someone of something doesn't mean they're flipping you the bird ! It's just them trying to convince YOU. It's a back and fourth thing and as long as you have a pointy to make that you either haven't yet mentioned or hasn't been addressed by the people you reply to, the debate can keep rolling. No reason to go into all that "i bow to your superior intelligence" or whatever that was. thats when i gets out of hand. If you are frusterated to the point you have to go there it's probably better to not reply anymore.
You all know me and you know i go off like a friggin rocket when pushed. But note this one thing....until someone insults me or talks AT me in some mean spirited way, i am as civil as anyone. In this thread for example i keep plugging away trying to make a point or 2 that some don't agree with, but i just keep trying to plug away till it gets answered otherwise i feel no one has read it or understood it. But i don't get upset because someone doesn't see my point....i just try to make the point a little better.
Like NL said, you gotta realize there is no body language or anything like that in forum talk. This till now has simply been a debate as far as i could see.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 18:29 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | | My point regarding the Wing was that it's not a Cruiser either.Infact it's a very large and very heavy TOURING MACHINE.Yet some guys treat em a lot differently,pushin em over the edge, getting in over their heads,and on oddassion, paying the ultimate price.I don't think I can count the number of sport bikes that go down every year,again, due to the lack of experience or just plain stupitity.And again,I'm NOT tryin to take anything away from the T bird.So I guess what I am sayin is,if ya use your head,ya won't get into trouble.That's all.lol Dave!!!
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| | | EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 18:55 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: davetac1) | | | Where's the popcorn icon? 
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 19:13 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: EnGage) | | |
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Apr 2011 - 19:39 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
So I guess what I am sayin is,if ya use your head,ya won't get into trouble.That's all.lol Dave!!! |
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There ya go. Thats exactly what i'm saying. It's a cruiser, but theres no more of a problem riding it to it's given limit as it is riding a sportie or scooter to THIER given limit. So the cruiser moniker means nothing. The bike's limit is everything. And luckily for us this bike can handle a lot more than most if not all other cruisers. It's the one thing i wasn't sure about when i bought it and i had my fingers crossed it would be as good as my speedmaster. I was blown away after my first ride up Angele's crest when i realized it didn't just match the speedmaster but blew it away. I didn't think that was possible for a 700+ lb'er, but i was ecstatic after that ride.
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 03:29 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | | I agree Daz, when I first heard this bike was going to have the extra weight I thought Triumph screwed the pooch by not keeping it lean, after my first ride I realized how wrong I was. The weight is an asset and the ride is more agile than other bikes in it's class. And I have kept up with Thuxton and Speedy's in the tightest of twisties actually I blew the Speedy away but gave the Thruxton something to think about. As one of the die hard Speedy owners said, "I could not believe how effortlessly your threw that big bike around in the corners...I want one!"
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,731 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 03:53 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: fasteddy) | | | Thats great ! Many of the guys with bonnevilles and derivatives absolutely refuse to believe it. Those who had open minds ended up buying a TBird and raving about the handling. My other big worry when i saw the weight quoted was that it would be a huge bike like the R3. That was one of the things i didn't like about the R3. I was shocked to see it actually looks no bigger than a speedmaster except for the fatness, which by the way i like. I trusted in the triumph name and bought w/o a demo ride. (no demos to be had) I had trust enough to feel it would live up to my minimum expectations. Boy, did it ever surpass those !
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 07:22 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | | So I gather by the response that no one has tried nitrogen(in their tyres), it is supposed to increase mileage.
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| | | fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 08:34 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Leethal) | | | hey leethal,i run nitrogen in all my tyres bikes,cars and trucks, it is just a more dense gas so doesn't leek out as fast
i don't know about increased mileage except maybe because the tyres are always at the correct pressure
it is pretty good stuff i never had to put more nitrogen in my bike tyres from new till i replaced them same as my car.
the trucks will lose a few psi over time but nothing drastic.
at $2 a tyre that's good value
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 10:31 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: fab) | | | Cheers mate, I have heard that it gives better wear, not sure why or how, maybe it runs cooler? Just with all this discussion and blokes worrying about spending a few dollars on tyres I thought someone would have given it a go by now.
Personally I like sticky tyres, keeps me upright, bugger the money, big bike, big torque, big tyre, big $$$$$$$. That's life.
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 13:32 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
So I gather by the response that no one has tried nitrogen(in their tyres), it is supposed to increase mileage. |
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In the Denver area, they advertise nitrogen SO much, it always comes across as "snake oil", so I've shied away from it. There's nothing like buying an invisible product and trusting that you actually got those molecules you paid for!
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 14:30 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
Cheers mate, I have heard that it gives better wear, not sure why or how, maybe it runs cooler? Just with all this discussion and blokes worrying about spending a few dollars on tyres I thought someone would have given it a go by now.
Personally I like sticky tyres, keeps me upright, bugger the money, big bike, big torque, big tyre, big $$$$$$$. That's life. |
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I agree buy I'll add that's the price of life, we're not forced to we just do it. BTW I hear owning a boat is a hell of a lot more money and it just sits there most of the time. I'ts our choice.
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 19:21 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: daz) | | |
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it's been said numerous times in reviews by both users and magazines how it handles unlike any cruiser. I have read guys who have bonnies and a Tbird say it handles BETTER than the bonnie ! On the NTBF forum i saw a guy say his bird handles BETTER than his thruxton ! I have heard 2 guys who have sporties say that aside from the pegs scraping it's close !
So unless you are saying don't push it as hard as a sporties which i would agree with, then your point makes little sense to me. Like i said, every bike has it's limit and you simply try and stay within that. ther Tbirds limit just happens to be much further up the scale than any other cruiser and actually handles more like a really good standard at least, a pint not made just by me but by a ton of people including bike mag editors, wo i think might know a thing or 2.
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Before dismantling entirely the coffee TBird before going to the paintshop, I could ride the baby a full day.
Reason was that it was not obvious that with those mods, the bike will handle as well as without and was looking for those last minute adjustments
Where I live it's only bends & montains when you escape the city
I have a very tough comparison, with my Cafe Racer Thunderbird 900 that pulls 125 hp (carbs not clean be honnest let's say ...115).
At first, there is no way that with that amount of torque a tyre will last more than 5k to 7000 km's.
After an hour to get a little used to the bike, I started to push hard
Few bends that I know every gravel of the concrete I could make an apple vs apple comparison, relying on the speedo info's only.
On one I took 3 measurements on each bike averaged below
45km/h with the 1700 not touching
52km/h with the Tbird 900 exhaust touching
85 km/h at the first mark after the bend for the 1700
89 km/h at the first mark after the bend for the TBird 900 sport
139 km/h at the second mark for the 1700
163 km/h at the second mark for the Tbird 900
And I am happy, very happy with that as I was not expecting the bike to be so brilliant
Another important point is that, it is a lot more comfortable with the 1700
The 2 bikes had the front wheel a couple of cm's above the road at the output of the bend (there is a little bump on the road)
That is saying to me that the performance is there and the handling is just something I was not expecting
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 22:31 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | narsisco_lopez wrote:
Leethal wrote:
So I gather by the response that no one has tried nitrogen(in their tyres), it is supposed to increase mileage. |
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In the Denver area, they advertise nitrogen SO much, it always comes across as "snake oil", so I've shied away from it. There's nothing like buying an invisible product and trusting that you actually got those molecules you paid for! |
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I hardly ever hear about it here. I also wonder do you check your pressure, and then if it needs topping up, what cost then.
Maybe Fab can answer that.
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Nitron R3 shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 22:34 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Linkdog) | | |
Linkdog wrote:
Leethal wrote:
Cheers mate, I have heard that it gives better wear, not sure why or how, maybe it runs cooler? Just with all this discussion and blokes worrying about spending a few dollars on tyres I thought someone would have given it a go by now.
Personally I like sticky tyres, keeps me upright, bugger the money, big bike, big torque, big tyre, big $$$$$$$. That's life. |
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I agree buy I'll add that's the price of life, we're not forced to we just do it. BTW I hear owning a boat is a hell of a lot more money and it just sits there most of the time. I'ts our choice. |
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You bet!! Best thing about the ones that just sit(especially in salt water) is they keep me in Tbirds etc, as they generally at some point suffer expensive repairs
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Nitron R3 shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | | fab | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2011 - 22:51 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Leethal) | | | I hardly ever hear about it here. I also wonder do you check your pressure, and then if it needs topping up,
Maybe Fab can answer that
i have valve pressure checkers caps on, so i can see without having to put a pressure gauge on them
as far as cost goes i haven't had to top them up except for the truck tyres and they topped them up for free.
out of the 12 tyres on the truck only two needed topping up, but i think they are from old rims.
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Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
ahh f**k im deep
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,589 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2011 - 01:21 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: fab) | | | Well that makes sense mate, what pressures do you run? I guess with those checkers you can see the variations in pressures from hot to cold too.
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Nitron R3 shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2011 - 02:00 Post title : Re: Bridgestone Exedra G850/G851 (Re: Leethal) | | | front 40 rear 42
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Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
ahh f**k im deep
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