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| Sennaista | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 234 | | Location | : | London, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 29 Oct 2015 - 11:15 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | |
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I think they are all water-cooled now, even the 900cc one. |
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Na, they;re air cooled. Look at the specs. Only the new 1200's are water. The 900's have a oil cooler, don't mistake that for a radiator. |
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Triumph's website thinks it's water-cooled:
"Behind the new 900 engines stylish exterior sits a cutting edge liquid-cooling system..."
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Oct 2015 - 13:28 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Sennaista) | | | Hmmm....well apparently triumph is confused. editing errors?
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Oct 2015 - 13:35 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | Heres a shot of the bonnie that shows what looks like a combination of the new and old engine but also clearly shows the same oil cooler as they've always had. So i dunno whats going on, but i did just dream this all up. Other pics are all wacky. Some with radiator, some not, engine differences. No ideas WTF is going on
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| MotorMac | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,893 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Oct 2015 - 14:23 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | That's an 865cc Bonny, same as current model, I think.
T120 and T120 Black are 1200cc and do have radiators (and electronic throttle).
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Oct 2015 - 14:46 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: MotorMac) | | | I was replying to Sennaista's suggestion that the 900's are now water cooled. It's hard to say with all the confusion in the website's data and pics.
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| hairdoo | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2013 | | Posts | : | 159 | | Location | : | haymarket, va, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 10:50 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | I started out on an america.....I always said that if they had an america over 1100 cc with 6 speed that's what I really want (but they didn't - so, I moved up to a bird) - maybe I'll get my wish in a year or two.....!
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| Sennaista | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 234 | | Location | : | London, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 12:04 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
I was replying to Sennaista's suggestion that the 900's are now water cooled. It's hard to say with all the confusion in the website's data and pics. |
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Daz, that's the old bike. This is the new 900. And what is in front of the engine is clearly a water radiator, not the old oil-cooler.
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| | Post edited by Sennaista on 30 Oct 2015 - 18:23 |
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| PES | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 13:20 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Sennaista) | | | Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole triumph line is going to be water cooled due to emission regs. The only hold out according to Triumph
's website is the 2016 Scrambler which is gong to keep the old engine for the time being.
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 13:22 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Sennaista) | | | Yeah, i've seen that and other pics that make it that much more confusing. But the bonnie it has the different cooling fins and header clamps like the new engine yet an oil cooler. Then theres the spec that says "air cooled". They may have a mix of old engine and new and possibly the old one but with changes. So the jury is out on all of this for me at least till they fix the site to reflect reality.
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| VABird | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,373 | | Location | : | BEDFORD, Virginia, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 13:28 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: PES) | | |
PES wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole triumph line is going to be water cooled due to emission regs. The only hold out according to Triumph
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The America and Speedmaster will still be the air cooled 865 too, according to the article on Motorcycle.com review Link
Biggest problem with these new ones is the RBW, (ride by wire) replacing the incredibly simple throttle cable with a (something else to break) electronic throttle. I'd never buy one because of that one feature.
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| PES | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 13:30 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | The tell on the new engines is the valve cover. It's longer and flatter. On the old engine the cover is more rounded.
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| mag10 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/02/2010 | | Posts | : | 485 | | Location | : | Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 14:42 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: PES) | | |
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The tell on the new engines is the valve cover. It's longer and flatter. On the old engine the cover is more rounded. |
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 15:34 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: mag10) | | | Yeah, i'm thinking that bonnie is the old one, tho i never saw one like that with the finned clamps and the different fins. They really need to fix all that stuff tho including the reference to the air cooling in the specs. As to that street twin, if that had the 1200 engine and a nicer paint job like one in particular thats on the site, i might just go there in the next few years. i really like that bike tho i think the paint looks like %$#@. I wish they'd do away with the seams too like they did on the Tbrid. But that bike is really growing one me. It's got cast wheels even if not in the size i'd hoped for, but that and the overall look is really growing on me. A few minor changes and one big one (1200 instead of 900)and i'd be all over that bike.
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| Sennaista | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 234 | | Location | : | London, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 18:21 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | |
daz wrote:
Yeah, i'm thinking that bonnie is the old one, tho i never saw one like that with the finned clamps and the different fins. They really need to fix all that stuff tho including the reference to the air cooling in the specs. As to that street twin, if that had the 1200 engine and a nicer paint job like one in particular thats on the site, i might just go there in the next few years. i really like that bike tho i think the paint looks like %$#@. I wish they'd do away with the seams too like they did on the Tbrid. But that bike is really growing one me. It's got cast wheels even if not in the size i'd hoped for, but that and the overall look is really growing on me. A few minor changes and one big one (1200 instead of 900)and i'd be all over that bike. |
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If they really are the same engines, Triumph might decide to offer a "big bore kit" somewhere down the road.
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| PES | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 19:32 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
As to that street twin, if that had the 1200 engine and a nicer paint job like one in particular thats on the site, i might just go there in the next few years. i really like that bike tho i think the paint looks like %$#@. |
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If you want to see and ugly ass paint job, look at the 2016 Commander in Lithium Flame/Frozen silver. Is Lithium even a color? Where do they come up with this shit?
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| Swagger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 15/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,103 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 30 Oct 2015 - 19:55 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: PES) | | |
| PES wrote: ... If you want to see and ugly ass paint job, look at the 2016 Commander in Lithium Flame/Frozen silver. Is Lithium even a color? ... |
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A lithium flame is bright red in colour ...
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| Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,554 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Nov 2015 - 07:00 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: PES) | | | Thruxton 1200R may retail here for around $24000 on road, 100bhp is going to give it some power to weight giddy up.
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| Swagger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 15/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,103 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Nov 2015 - 08:03 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Leethal) | | | I was at a bike show on Friday ... just happened to be booking a test ride on an Ariel Ace  ... The MD and the frame producer both agreed that the Thruxton was a bike that Triumph needed to build. They also reckoned that it'd probably mess up further Norton's woeful approach to releasing bikes in a timely and cost effective way.
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| Sennaista | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 234 | | Location | : | London, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Nov 2015 - 12:46 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Swagger) | | | From Jack Lilley, exclusive Triumph dealer in London:
| Price of the Speed Twin is expected to be around ??7,400 and the Speed Twin should be available in January 2016. The T120 is expected to be around ??9,800 with the bikes arriving March 2016. The Thruxton will be around ??10,500 and the Thruxton R ??11,800. Both Thruxtons should be available April 2016. |
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| Sennaista | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 234 | | Location | : | London, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 11 Dec 2015 - 16:06 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Sennaista) | | | Triumph UK has published the full spec-sheet for the Street Twin, only.
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,515 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 15 Apr 2016 - 04:35 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: Sennaista) | | | I saw this and thought of daz.... :)
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,723 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Apr 2016 - 14:51 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: AZCactus) | | |
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I saw this and thought of daz.... :)
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Not sure why you would think of me, but if that means you think i would like that you're barking up the wring daz ! That thing reminds me of homer simpsons home page. (if u recall that episode) Way too many things going on at once and none of em good.
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| | Posted : 15 Apr 2016 - 16:22 Post title : Re: 1100cc Bonneville (Re: daz) | | | Ok... Got the style wrong. But it is chain driven 
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