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Topic : Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s
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 MotorMac 
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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 04:13   Post title : Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s
 
Pricy lil' devils, but the stock bulbs are $25/pair from Hong Kong on eBay, so $18US each seems like a bargain.
Found LED replacements from a favorite source here: Link
Full set of 4 came to $75 with shipping. I know LEDs typically blink faster than incandescent bulbs, but what's the harm in that? These only draw 115mA with 18 LEDs per bulb (compared to 1A for a typical 1156 bulb, dunno what the BAU15s draws). Here's their diagram:




When they arrive, I'll post back results.

 

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 davetac1 
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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 10:30   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 
Since the bulbs used in the Tbird are single filament,used for signaling purposes ONLY, and not on all the time [dual filament] as is the case with other brands of motorcycles, why would ya wanna change em to something more expensive??? I could understand upgrading em IF they ran constantly,but they don't.In the 3 1/2 years and 66,000 miles I've owned and traveled with my bird,I've only replaced one bulb and bought another for stock.And if I remember right,I think I paid 6 or 7 bucks a piece for em. SO????????????????? Dave!!!

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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 16:03   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: davetac1)
 
I'm thinkin'..... Gimme a minute..... ;-)

Big fan of LEDs, one of the few win-win situations where you lose nothing but gain on all fronts.
Was a post here someplace where guys were going to great pains fitting LED turn signals, for use as flashers, running lights, brake lights, etc.
If these had been around then, it would've saved 'em a lot of work.
They come in red, white and amber, (should) fit stock sockets.
Bound to be brighter, will last longer than I will, one less thing to worry about.
And, there's the only reason I can find for much of what's happening these days: Because I can.
Why not?


 

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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 18:18   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 
Understood!! Dave!!!

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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 21:06   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 

MotorMac wrote:

I'm thinkin'..... Gimme a minute..... ;-)


And, there's the only reason I can find for much of what's happening these days: Because I can.
Why not?




I do like the idea of them being brighter - it makes you just that bit better to be spotted by some of those blind drivers.



 
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Posted : 13 Dec 2013 - 22:51   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: mat1600)
 
I got news for you guys.If you were ridin around with a pair of two foot wide "STROBE LIGHTS" flashing wildly,signifying which direction you were gonna turn,these assholes STILL wouldn't C YA. WHY?? Cause they're NOT PAYIN ATTENTION!! Dave!!!

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Posted : 18 Dec 2013 - 04:29   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: davetac1)
 
I have to agree Dave. But, until I finish my missile launcher, this is the best I can do.
Speaking of which, what rocket scientist decided this was a good idea?



Arrow points at bulb's ground contact which conveniently springs down when bulb is removed and effectively prevents installing a new bulb.
If the damn thing had a slight curve on the end it might move out of the way, but nooo, it collides squarely with bulb's base, so you have to angle the bulb inward and get under it just so. If it was a CH shorter, installing a bulb would be all but impossible. Whatta PITA!

Anyway, LEDs arrived and here's a side-by-side comparison of brightness and speed. As far as brightness goes, The LEDs are easily as bright, maybe a tad brighter, but you be the judge. Flash speed is faster and much more sudden, so I think that's a good thing. Left side has stock bulbs front/rear, right has LEDs front/rear.

Link
(Tried like crazy to upload a short, small video here but that's apparently not allowed.)

 

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Posted : 18 Dec 2013 - 04:38   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 
Great Idea and LEDs definitely brighter!

 
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Posted : 18 Dec 2013 - 10:51   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 
I think you'll be better off with your missle launcher, cause ya know fuckin right well,the asshole[s] comin at ya won't see the LED's either cause he/she ain't payin attention.SOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! That's when ya push the little "LAUNCH BUTTON" to eliminate the thread for yourself AND EVERYONE ELSE. Dave!!!

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Posted : 05 Mar 2014 - 05:09   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: davetac1)
 
I agree after being rear ended on my TBird in January NOTHING you do will fix inatentive drivers!!

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Posted : 17 Mar 2014 - 17:26   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 

MotorMac wrote:

Pricy lil' devils, but the stock bulbs are $25/pair from Hong Kong on eBay, so $18US each seems like a bargain.
Found LED replacements from a favorite source here: Link
Full set of 4 came to $75 with shipping. I know LEDs typically blink faster than incandescent bulbs, but what's the harm in that? These only draw 115mA with 18 LEDs per bulb (compared to 1A for a typical 1156 bulb, dunno what the BAU15s draws). Here's their diagram:




When they arrive, I'll post back results.


I just found this posting, how involved would it be to turn these into running/turn light combos. I've read the posts one of the other members laid out but this could be another option with potentially less wiring. I know Kilsan makes some plug and play adaptors but apparently not for the birds
Wiring aint my thing but I'll tackle most any project.

 
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Posted : 18 Mar 2014 - 01:55   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: MotorMac)
 
These will stop the hyper flash for each light, (otherwise it might not pass inspection here) I also have LED bulbs and had to have these installed, I think I bought them for about $7 for all 4 on Ebay
Can't remember if I used the 50w or 25w






4 LED Turn Signal Load Resistor Blinker Fix 50W 6ohm

 
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Post edited by Terota66 on 18 Mar 2014 - 02:00
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Posted : 18 Mar 2014 - 02:36   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: Terota66)
 
Wow, really? That's one of the things I like about these. Not only do they flash at a faster rate, but they go on/off instantly, both of which should get attention better than incandescent bulbs. (Assuming cagers are looking.) Never occurred to me that flash rate would be specified by law, but I suppose it's more likely than not. Difference is about the same as turn signals on my Jeep with trailer hooked-up - roughly x2.

Hornet, I don't think you will make running/turn lights out of these without going to dual-contact 1157-type bulbs/sockets and a whole lot of wiring, or going this route: Link

 

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Posted : 18 Mar 2014 - 03:19   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: Terota66)
 
Just liking the looks of an LED turn signal is the only reason I can think of for replacing a single-filament bulb with an LED bulb and a load equalizer.

Once you add the 6 ohm load resistor to keep the blink rate right, you're back to drawing 2 amps, same as a 25W bau15/7507 filament bulb; you lose all power savings. Yeah, LEDs last longer than filaments but a turn signal bulb will last for years and cost about $1.25 to replace. LEDs make sense for lights that have a lot of ON time and aren't on a load-sensed line.

It's still amazing to me in this day and age that Triumph doesn't use LED-friendly turn signal drivers. It would be the least they could do since the TBird doesn't even have a turn signal relay you can replace.


 
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Posted : 18 Mar 2014 - 13:52   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: PapaSmurfMC)
 
They do have bulbs with load built into 'em.
Not sure if there's one for our BAU15 socket tho, have to go back and look.
They were for certain cars - low draw would trigger fault warning.


 

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Posted : 18 Mar 2014 - 15:29   Post title : Re: Amber LED turn signal bulbs, BAU15s (Re: PapaSmurfMC)
 
PapaSmurfMC wrote:



It's still amazing to me in this day and age that Triumph doesn't use LED-friendly turn signal drivers. It would be the least they could do since the TBird doesn't even have a turn signal relay you can replace.


I totally agree, they place a LED brake light and don't give (or even offer as a option) to have LED turn signals

 
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Post edited by Terota66 on 18 Mar 2014 - 15:56